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В комментарии к моей записи, "Еще о вранье. И вопрос к трампистам.", трамписты прибыли, но никто из них не смог даже однозначно признать, что Сара Сандерс врала на брифинге. Арбат даже запостил об этом отдельную запись, и там, и в записи, и в комментариях, та же история.

В связи с этим будет уместно процитировать комментарий [livejournal.com profile] rsokolov:
Проблема в том, что вы и вам подобные в своем трампопоклонничестве настолько утратили чувство стыда и меры, что совершенно невозможно определить, то ли вы упорно продолжаете притворяться идиотами в рамках избранной вами риторической стратегии, то ли в процессе следования этой стратегии необратимо превратились в идиотов.
Разговаривать с трампистами сейчас -- это абсолютно то же самое, что разговаривать с ватниками, мой вопрос в записи по ссылке это только еще раз проиллюстрировал. И в деле общения и с ватниками, и с трампистами я являюсь экспертом, так как потратил сотни, если не тысячи часов на общение и с теми, и с другими. Так что я знаю, о чем говорю.

Да, и на всякий случай. И трампистов, и ватников миллионы. Я не говорю обо всех до единого -- всегда есть исключения. Но, в общем и целом, ситуация именно такая.

Date: 2019-04-25 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
В сторону от этой записи. Роль Розенштейна в этой саге совершенно загадочная.

С одной стороны, он, вроде, серьезно предлагал to wear a wire, чтобы продемонстрировать, насколько Трамп ненормальный президент. Серьезно или не серьезно он это предлагал, но он явно не имел иллюзий относительно Трампа.

С другой стороны, он написал мемо, обосновывающее увольнение Коми. Тоже явно понимая, почему Трамп хочет от него избавиться.

С третьей стороны, он тут же назначил Мюллера.

С четвертой стороны, он стоял рядом с Барром во время его пресс-конференции; и, согласился с использованием своего имени Барром для обоснования "no obstruction".

И, вопреки всем прогнозам, Розенштейн до сих пор остается заместителем AG.

Date: 2019-04-25 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com
Кстати:

"In response to questions from reporters, Sanders said that Rosenstein decided “on his own” to review Comey’s performance and that Rosenstein decided “on his own” to come to the President on Monday, May 8 to express his concerns about Comey."

Я видео не могу посмотреть сейчас -- в вашем позавчерашнем посте она это говорит?

Date: 2019-04-26 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Нет, там очень короткий отрывок.

Date: 2019-04-26 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com
Did you see this? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-speech.html

His contortions are painful to watch...

Date: 2019-04-26 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Немного видел. Я уже говорил, что Розенштейн в этой истории очень противоречивая фигура.

Date: 2019-04-26 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com
Я не удивлюсь, если анонимное письмо в NYT написал именно он.

Date: 2019-04-26 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Письмо, вроде, было от работника администрации Белого Дома.

Date: 2019-04-26 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
Детали продолжают всплывать.

Rosenstein — who, by one account, had gotten teary-eyed just before the call in a meeting with Trump’s chief of staff — sought to defuse the volatile situation and assure the president he was on his team, according to people familiar with matter. He criticized the Times report, published in late September, and blamed it on former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, whose recollections formed its basis. Then he talked about special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and told the president he would make sure Trump was treated fairly, people familiar with the conversation said.
“I give the investigation credibility,” Rosenstein said, in the words of one administration official offering their own characterization of the call. “I can land the plane.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/i-can-land-the-plane-how-rosenstein-tried-to-mollify-trump-protect-mueller-and-save-his-job/2019/04/26/f2fd3bf2-65e0-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html

Вот, значит, откуда “land the plane” https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1655019.html

Date: 2019-04-25 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsokolov.livejournal.com
Да, Розенштейн написал мемо - уже зная, что Трамп принял решение уволить Коми. И в этом мемо он написал, что действия Коми повредили репутации Клинтон. Таким образом, у Трампа не оказалось официального предлога для увольнения Коми, который он бы мог использовать для обоснования своего решения уволить Коми, и ему пришлось нести всякую чепуху, а у будущего спецпрокурора появился повод заняться выяснением подлинных причин увольнения Коми.

Date: 2019-04-25 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com
Mueller Report now reveals that in the first draft of his memo Rosenstein did recommend that Trump remove Comey, but that he removed that recommendation from the final draft of the memo because he knew Trump had already made the decision. Id. at 68 n.439 (citing notes of Rosenstein’s colleague Tash Gauhar).

Date: 2019-04-25 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
Что касается "подлинных причин увольнения Коми", то Мюллер позволяет себе толстые намеки.

In the morning on May 10, 2017, President Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. [The meeting had been planned on May 2, 2017, during a telephone call between the President and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and the meeting date was confirmed on May 5, 2017, the same day the President dictated ideas for the Corney termination letter to Stephen Miller.]

At a dinner on Friday, May 5, attended by the President and various advisors and family members, including Jared Kushner and senior advisor Stephen Miller, the President stated that he wanted to remove Corney and had ideas for a letter that would be used to make the announcement. The President dictated arguments and specific language for the letter, and Miller took notes. As reflected in the notes, the President told Miller that the letter should start, "While I greatly appreciate you informing me that I am not under investigation concerning what I have often stated is a fabricated story on a Trump-Russia relationship - pertaining to the 2016 presidential election, please be informed that I, and I believe the American public - including Ds and Rs - have lost faith in you as Director of the FBT."

Date: 2019-04-26 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamantyn.livejournal.com
> The President dictated arguments and specific language for the letter,

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein firmly stood by the memo he wrote that outlined James Comey’s offenses – and later was cited by the White House to support President Trump’s decision to fire the FBI director – during briefings with Capitol Hill lawmaker ...

“I wrote it. I believe it. I stand by it,” he said, according to the opening statement provided by senior Justice Department officials. He maintained that Comey’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe was “wrong and unfair.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rosenstein-on-comey-memo-i-wrote-it-i-believe-it-i-stand-by-it

> Мюллер позволяет себе

Пусть книжку напишет, заработает внучатам на айфоны.

Date: 2019-04-26 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
Comey’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe was “wrong and unfair.”

Кто ж спорит? Но уволили Коми не из-за этого https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1313086.html?thread=42523710#t42523710

Date: 2019-04-26 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamantyn.livejournal.com
> уволили Коми не из-за этого

Это ваши фантазии и инсинуации. Мы их отметаем с негодованием, как неорганизованные.

Date: 2019-04-26 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
McGahn and Dhillon urged the President to permit Comey to resign, but the President was adamant that he be fired. The group discussed the possibility that Rosenstein and Sessions could provide a recommendation in writing that Comey should be removed. The President agreed and told Rosenstein to draft a memorandum, but said he wanted to receive it first thing the next morning. Hunt's notes reflect that the President told Rosenstein to include in his recommendation the fact that Comey had refused to confirm that the President was not personally under investigation. According to notes taken by a senior DOJ official of Rosenstein 's description of his meeting with the President, the President said, "Put the Russia stuff in the memo." Rosenstein responded that the Russia investigation was not the basis of his recommendation, so he did not think Russia should be mentioned. The President told Rosenstein he would appreciate it if Rosenstein put it in his letter anyway. When Rosenstein left the meeting, he knew that Comey would be terminated, and he told DOJ colleagues that his own reasons for replacing Comey were "not [the President's] reasons." <...>
The President then called Rosenstein directly and said he was watching Fox News, that the coverage had been great, and that he wanted Rosenstein to do a press conference. Rosenstein responded that this was not a good idea because if the press asked him, he would tell the truth that Comey's firing was not his idea. <...>
The President told Sessions and McGahn that foreign leaders had expressed sympathy to him for being under investigation and that the perception he was under investigation was hurting his ability to address foreign relations issues.The President complained to Rogers that "the thing with the Russians [ was] messing up" his ability to get things done with Russia, and told Coats, "I can't do anything with Russia, there's things I'd like to do with Russia, with trade, with ISIS, they're all over me with this."


Интересно, что за "trade" его беспокоил.

Товарооборот США с ЕС в 2016: $270 млрд экспорт, $417 млрд импорт.
Товарооборот США с Китаем: $116 млрд экспорт, $463 млрд импорт.
Товарооборот США с РФ: $6 млрд экспорт, $15 млрд импорт.
Edited Date: 2019-04-26 02:17 pm (UTC)

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