Ясность о врагах народа

[yakov_a_jerkov]

Примерно год назад Трамп назвал нелегальных иммигрантов животными. Я тогда об этом подробно написал -- "These aren’t people. These are animals."

Трамписты очень возмутились тем, что слова Трмпа были "вырваны из контекста". Трамписты утверждали, что Трамп говорил о членах MS-13. Даже если бы Трамп, действительно, говорил только об MS-13 (это не так, о чем а подробно написал в записи по ссылке) это было бы совершенно дикое и, главное, очень опасное высказывание президента.

Но я думаю, что трамписты, в общем, хорошо понимали, что Трамп говорит не об MS-13, и просто участвовали в подмигивании.

Хорошо иллюстрирует это подмигивание история с использованием Трампом термина "враги народа" в отношении прессы.

Когда Трамп первый раз назвал журналистов врагами народа, это был относительно big deal. Ну, как для Трампа -- то есть через пару дней об этом забыли, конечно. Я тогда запостил запись об этом -- "О врагах народа".

Вот тот твит Трампа:

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

Естественно, трамписты встали на защиту президента. У этой защиты было два направления: (1) "враги народа" по-английски звучит совсем не так зловеще, как по-русски; (2) Трамп не говорит вообще о прессе, только о "fake news media", то есть о тех, кто пишет вымышленные статьи, даром, что Трамп перечислил большинство крупнейших американских СМИ, -- ну, вот такие СМИ в Америке.

Поговорим о втором пункте, поскольку он очень похож на "Трамп говорил об MS-13".

Со времени первого твита, Трамп обиделся, что его высказывания о врагах народа неверно интерпретируют:

CNN and others in the Fake News Business keep purposely and inaccurately reporting that I said the “Media is the Enemy of the People.” Wrong! I said that the “Fake News (Media) is the Enemy of the People,” a very big difference. When you give out false information - not good!

Затем заменил "Fake News (Media)" на просто "The Mainstream Media":

The Mainstream Media is under fire and being scorned all over the World as being corrupt and FAKE. For two years they pushed the Russian Collusion Delusion when they always knew there was No Collusion. They truly are the Enemy of the People and the Real Opposition Party!

А затем отбросил и "mainstream" и назвал вещи своими именами -- "The press":

The press is doing everything within their power to fight the magnificence of the phrase, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! They can’t stand the fact that this Administration has done more than virtually any other Administration in its first 2yrs. They are truly the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

Важно тут не то, что Трамп наконец высказался предельно ясно. Важно то, что изначально Трамп называл журналистов врагами народа. Не каких-то отдельных журналистов, пишущих лживые статьи, а журналистов, честно выполняющих свою работу, как таковых. И те, кто говорили о неверной интерпретации и подчеркивали "fake news", прекрасно это понимали.

Я не знаю, запостит ли Трамп твит со словами "нелегальные иммигранты are truly not people", но когда мы читаем о "вырванных из контекста" словах Трампа о животных, мне кажется, полезно иметь в виду историю о "неверной интерпретации" высказываний Трампа о врагах народа.

Comments

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Во время "оттепели" враги народа сменились на врагов партии.



"Ожесточённое сопротивление пыталась оказать осуществлению ленинского курса, намеченного XX съездом партии, фракционная антипартийная группа, в которую входили Молотов, Каганович, Маленков, Ворошилов, Булганин, Первухин, Сабуров и примкнувший к ним Шепилов."
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Антипартийная_группа

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

И CNN. Яков писал об этом.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Вы уже выяснили, где смотреть CNN International? https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1584802.html?thread=56245666#t56245666

А вообще за советские сравнения следует бить канделябром ещё больней, чем за закон Годвина.

В июне 1957, пока Хрущев разбирался с «фракционной антипартийнрй группой», в Манхэттене был арестован нелегальный иммигрант Рудольф Абель.

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

Не только нелегальным нелегалом, он еще и Койотом был какое то время. Но вообще, вы явно в детстве не наигрались в разведчиков, вспоминая их без всякого повода.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Повод, к сожалению, находится.

Абеля (Фишера) удалось посадить только потому, что Верховный суд решением 5 на 4 разрешил использовать материалы, найденные у него при обыске без ордера. Обсуждая это дело, Эйзенхауэр отметил сложность преследования шпионов в американской системе правосудия.

The President then remarked that if we discovered a Soviet spy, we would have to expose all our intelligence sources and methods in order to obtain a conviction. Even if convicted, a spy would probably be sentenced to only six years and would be replaced by six more spies. In this situation, about all the FBI can do is keep spies under surveillance.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/vx149.asp

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

но причем тут этот пост, эта ветка?! бред какой какой то; если бы Яков обсуждал доклад мюллера, еще можно было бы как то понять.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Музыкой навеяло.

Но несколько более актуально, чем дурацкие ассоциации с хрущевской оттепелью или Глебом Жегловым.

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

Я думаю, до снятого ботинка дойдет довольно скоро, а кукурузный период в самом разгаре. Не говоря уж об идее называть Крым украинским. Оттепель как она есть! Chris Ofili Painting, Once Called “Degenerate” by Trump, Gifted to Museum of Modern Art by Trump Supporter

[gomberg.livejournal.com]

Who cared about Trump back in the 1990s? The guy who objected to this painting was his current lawyer - and at the time it was a lot more important. I remember that exhibition - and this painting. I must say, Mr. Giuliani, with his customary sense of taste, picked on one of the best works in the show. The crap here is this photo - the picture is anything but. Happy the thing is now at MOMA - it deserves to be there.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Who cared about Trump back in the 1990s?

Trump made comments about the painting in 1999 while running for president as a Reform Party candidate.

Good article about Trump and the arts, from beginning to the end:

His first media spectacle, in 1980, focused on the then-33-year-old developer destroying a pair of Art Deco reliefs that were part of the facade of the Bonwit Teller Building in midtown Manhattan, which Trump tore down to build his Trump Tower. The Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted the reliefs for its collection, as the Washington Post recalled in a bit of retrospective reporting recently, and Trump agreed to donate them, if the cost of their removal wasn’t prohibitive. It wasn’t, but Trump’s construction crew destroyed the works anyway. <...>
He has been flirting with a presidential run since the late ’80s; as early as 1999, he made a public call for censorship and claimed that his hypothetical presidency would cut federal funding for the arts. That was the year that Mayor Rudolph Giuliani embarked on a crusade against the Brooklyn Museum for its exhibition of Chris Ofili’s The Holy Mary Virgin (1996), which depicts the Madonna in materials including oil paint, glitter, and elephant dung. Giuliani told the Times the work wasn’t art because he could make it himself. He went so far as to try to cancel the institution’s lease with the city, evicting it from its home of more than 100 years. Outside of religious groups, Giuliani had few allies in this fight in New York, besides Trump, who released a statement to the Daily News—in reference to what the paper referred to only as “the Brooklyn Museum’s elephant-dung Madonna”—saying, “As president, I would ensure that the National Endowment of the Arts stops funding of this sort.” (The Daily News pointed out that the organization’s correct title is “National Endowment for the Arts,” and that the NEA did not give any funding to the Brooklyn Museum’s show that featured Ofili.) Regarding the Ofili, Trump continued: “It’s not art. It’s absolutely gross, degenerate stuff.” Note the word “degenerate.” There was, of course, another politician who used that adjective to describe works of art that offended him. <...>
But, oddly enough, Trump did have a brief moment as a public-art advocate. He was a major supporter in the late-90s of a planned installation along the Hudson River of a statue of Christopher Columbus by Russian artist Zurab Tsereteli. New York eventually rejected the sculpture, as did a variety of other American cities that Teserteli attempted to donate his work to, including Baltimore; Fort Lauderdale, Florida; Miami; and—of all places—Columbus, Ohio. Looking back on it now, Trump’s pride in the sculpture seems just about right. The work is not so dissimilar from one of his hotels. Standing nearly 350 feet tall and weighing in at about 600 tons, the work—as Trump explained in a New Yorker profile from 1997—has “forty million dollars’ worth of bronze in it.”
http://www.artnews.com/2016/04/04/absolutely-gross-degenerate-stuff-trump-and-the-arts/



In 2016, Tsereteli’s statue finally ended up in one of Trump’s favorite places: Puerto Rico https://puppet-djt.livejournal.com/134374.html?thread=357862#t357862

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

Надо же, как символично -- Аресибо потерял статус самого большого радиотелескопа Китаю, и вместо этого получил церетелевского Колумба, в то время как Де Блазио с Оказией (Кортес!) хотят убрать Колумба с Columbus Circle.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Я думал, вы вспомните про Эрнста Неизвестного.



Выигравший конкурс Чайковского в 1958 Ван Клибурн выступал в Белом доме перед каждым президентом.

“Like every President since Harry Truman, I enjoyed the privilege of hearing Mr. Cliburn play, and I am confident that the enduring beauty of his art will sustain his legendary status for years to come.”
https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico44/2013/03/obama-on-van-cliburn-158325



Но до нынешней «жопы с ушами» не дожил.

This White House has been, and is likely to remain, home to the first presidency in American history that is almost completely devoid of culture. In the 17 months that Donald Trump has been in office, he has hosted only a few artists of any kind. One was the gun fetishist Ted Nugent. Another was Kid Rock. They went together (and with Sarah Palin). Neither performed.
Since his inauguration in January 2017, there have been no official concerts at the White House (the Reagans had one every few weeks). No poetry readings (the Obamas regularly celebrated young poets). The Carters began a televised series, “In Performance at the White House,” which last aired in 2016, where artists as varied as Mikhail Baryshnikov and Patricia McBride performed in the East Room. The Clintons continued the series with Aretha Franklin and B. B. King, Alison Krauss and Linda Ronstadt.
But aside from occasional performances by “The President’s Own” United States Marine Band, the White House is now virtually free of music. Never have we had a president not just indifferent to the arts, but actively oppositional to artists. Mr. Trump disparaged the play “Hamilton” and a few weeks later attacked Meryl Streep. He has said he does not have time to read books (“I read passages, I read areas, I read chapters”). Outside of recommending books by his acolytes, Mr. Trump has tweeted about only one work of literature since the beginning of his presidency: Michael Wolff’s “Fire and Fury.” It was not an endorsement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/opinion/dave-eggers-culture-arts-trump.html

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

а как же портрет эндрю джексона, его неизвестный художник написал?

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Да, из всех жанров искусства для нас важнейшим является портрет.

"Mr. Trump directed me to find a straw bidder to purchase a portrait of him that was being auctioned at an Art Hamptons Event. The objective was to ensure that his portrait, which was going to be auctioned last, would go for the highest price of any portrait that afternoon. The portrait was purchased by the fake bidder for $60,000. Mr. Trump directed the Trump Foundation, which is supposed to be a charitable organization, to repay the fake bidder, despite keeping the art for himself."
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20190227/108969/HHRG-116-GO00-Wstate-CohenM-20190227.pdf

Annnnd here's how the print got to the White House. Darrell Issa! https://t.co/VwbkfirNNu

— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) October 15, 2018

Портрет Эндрю Джексона в Овальный кабинет принес другой любитель искусства, Стив Бэннон https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1324268.html?thread=43275756#t43275756

Но с картинами остаются загадки:

1. Что за картину прислал в подарок Арас Агаларов? https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1464905.html?thread=50732105#t50732105

2. Была ли покупка MBS картины Леонардо у Рыболовлева частью схемы по отмыванию денег? https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1513836.html?thread=52680044#t52680044

3. Кристофер Стил помог ФБР расследовать коррупцию в ФИФА. Подтвердились ли сведения о картинах из запасников Эрмитажа, которые пошли в ход ради чемпионата 2018?

The ex-MI6 source said: “The way this was done in Russia is that nothing was written down. Don’t expect me or anyone else to produce a document with Putin’s signature saying please X bribe Y with this amount in this way. He’s not going to do that.”
He went on: “Putin is an ex-intelligence officer. Everything he does has to be deniable,” and said the deals with voters “would have been strategic level but not state to state because of the need for deniability. That’s why the oligarchs were brought in.”
The ex-MI6 source said the intelligence about “collusion” between the Russian and Qatari bids centred on a visit by Igor Sechin, Russia’s deputy prime minister and the country’s most powerful oil magnate, to Doha in April 2010 to discuss the Yamal gas deal.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-sent-tame-oligarchs-on-deniable-missions-to-win-bid-90hcr2q9mch

Some of those “deniable” acts, according to the Sunday Times, included the handing out of high-priced art to FIFA voters, including a painting believed to be by Pablo Picasso to UEFA’s Platini and an additional landscape painting to FIFA voting member Michel D’Hooghe of Belgium. The latter painting was said to be wrapped in a paper bag and given to D’Hooghe by Vyacheslav Koloskov, a former FIFA vice president and Russia 2018 World Cup committee member.
D’Hooghe, who is reportedly being investigated along with four others by FIFA in a new corruption probe connected to the World Cup bids, confirmed the receipt of the painting to the Sunday Times, but noted he thought it held no monetary value. He also said it was “absolutely ugly” and added that he did not vote for Russia to win the 2018 bid.
Platini, however, denies the allegation that he was given a Picasso painting from Putin.
“Allegations in the Sunday Times relating to my actions in the 2018 and 2022 bidding processes are total fabrications,” Platini told CNN. “The matter has now been passed to my legal advisers.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/12/01/vladimir-putin-allegedly-gave-uefa-president-michel-platini-a-picasso-in-exchange-for-a-fifa-world-cup-vote/

Опять не нашлось методов против Кости Сапрыкина.

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

"из всех жанров искусства для нас важнейшим является портрет"

Об Эрмитаже -- в Hermitage, TN поместье Андрю Джексона, в котором основная масса его портретов я так понимаю складирована. Он эти портреты использовал вместо Твиттера, размножал их в диком количестве на современной для того времени технике, и художник (Ерл) жил при нем с битвы при Новом Орлеане и до самой смерти, в том числе в Белом Доме.

Остальное занумерованое у вас опять флуд... Ну сколько можно, держите себя в рамочках...

[tijd.livejournal.com]

В рамочках пусть держат себя картины.



На "демократической" версии китча, который Трамп повесил в Белом доме, Эндрю Джексон скромно стоит в сторонке.

[gomberg.livejournal.com]

Ну, сыночку далеко до папы. Ральф Эрл старший был, и впрямь, интересный художник. У него, конечно, много примитива - на вкусы новоанглийских провинциалов. Но и примитивные его портреты интересные. Ну и вообще он, конечно, не Капли, но очень недурственен. А младший Эрл - тоска зеленая. Впрочем, Джэксону такой "придворный" вполне подходит :)

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

http://writersdolaundrytoos.blogspot.com/2011/02/paintings-by-ralph-earl-brother-james.html
Вот на этой страничке есть портрет, якобы сделаный братом старшего Ерла. Но как-то слишком хорошо, ошибка должно быть:

[gomberg.livejournal.com]

Why? I mean, it would have been miraculous a generation or two earlier, before these people had a chance to spend time in Britain and see actual professional oil painting. Copley´s genius was needed to "reinvent" the art on his own. British training produced decent portraitists.

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

я тоже помню эту историю и картину, но на выставке никогда не был и не видел, т.к. слушал о ней по радио. Тем более было интересно увидеть фото. А что с ним не так? Вырезанные из журналов голые жопы в виде аппликаций вроде можно рассмотреть.

[gomberg.livejournal.com]

Just a bad quality photo. I mean, better picture than you get over the radio, but still crap. Does not transmit the beauty of the painting. And it is beautiful.

[saccovanzetti.livejournal.com]

In general, these days I find the obscene itself more attractive than the art that just pretends to look obscene at times, so the beauty may be lost on me, if I ever go back to MOMA. My best memory of Brooklyn Museum is its Rodin sculprures.

[gomberg.livejournal.com]

Obscenity is in the eye of a beholder. Ofili, as far as I am concerned, is not obscene. But he is a damn good painter.

Brooklyn Museum has a wonderful Egyptian collection. Most elegant.

[tijd.livejournal.com]

Не столько “Trump supporter”, сколько “Giuliani hater”.

Steven Cohen, the hedge fund billionaire with one of the world’s most prestigious private art collections, has donated Ofili’s work to the Museum of Modern Art. Mr Cohen, who three years ago paid £3.4 million for the work once owned by Charles Saatchi, has given it to the New York museum along with a £38 million donation.
Coincidentally or not, Mr Cohen happens to have been targeted by Mr Giuliani when the former mayor, who is now a legal adviser to President Trump, was the US attorney in New York. Mr Giuliani initiated fraud investigations against various firms in the 1980s.
Mr Cohen, 61, was questioned but never charged. In 2013, however, his company pleaded guilty to insider trading and he agreed not to handle outside money for two years.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dung-deal-billionaire-donates-ofili-s-mary-7656q7pk0

В отличие от Хрущева Трамп и Джулиани картины не видели.