О правых и антисемитах

[yakov_a_jerkov]

В моей предыдущей записи, "О ZOG'е" я приводил видео из вчерашней передачи Лу Доббса на Fox Business, в которой его собеседник, говорит "Soros-occupied State Department" и продолжает популяризацию теорий заговора о "караване".

В дополнение к тому, что я уже сказал, я приведу комментарий Adam Serwer. Он говорит о той же передаче Доббса:

Everyone who says things like this, or who gives it a platform, knows exactly what it is and what it inspires. And no one should take it seriously when they play innocent.

The only thing to do is to tell the truth, and to keep telling it when they act offended because you described exactly what they were doing and they don’t like that you called it out.

Конечно, из этого правила могут быть и исключения. К примеру, я все больше думаю, что многое из того, что пишет Арбат, объясняется не злым умыслом, а просто глупостью. В частности, его комментарий, за который я его забанил на неделю -- я теперь склоняюсь к мнению, что прав был tijd, когда говорил, что Арбат просто плохо понимает разницу между editorial, opinion, это все.

Так вот об Арбате. Его сегодняшняя запись:

Яков, кстати, думает, что Сорос - это для правых символ всех евреев, и наезд на Сороса - антисемитизм.

Я не говорил "для правых", это у Арбата, кажется, то, что называется "оговорка по Фрейду". Я написал: "Если кто не в курсе, Сорос -- главная страшилка антисемитов, антиглобалистов и т.п.".

Но это просто забавный момент. Куда более важно, что Арбат сам добавляет антисемитскую клевету о Соросе:

Для правых, Сорос - это символ не каждого еврея, но еврея, разбогатевшего, помогая немцам грабить других евреев. Да, которого можно было бы простить, учитывая молодой возраст, если бы не то, что он уже в зрелом возрасте заверил нас, что не видит в этом ничего дурного. Так что те правые, которые не любят Сороса, делают это отнюдь не от антисемитизма. А потому, что говно он, ваш этот Сорос. Редкое говно.

Во-первых, что именно тут говорит Арбат? По-моему, он утверждает, что Сорос разбогател, помогая немцам грабить других евреев.

Можно было бы сказать, что он имеет в виду, что Сорос не разбогател, помогая немцам грабить евреев, а только является символом такого еврея, но дальше Арбат говорит, что Сорос "заверил нас, что не видит в этом ничего дурного". В чем "в этом" -- в том, чтобы разбогатеть, помогая немцам грабить других евреев.

Это вполне однозначный антисемитский бред. То, что Сорос ребенком помогал немцам грабить евреев, -- популярная антисемитская клевета, многократно и подробно разобранная. Но то, что Сорос на этом еще и разбогател -- такого я никогда раньше не встречал и сходу даже не смог найти.

Вот что пишет о детстве и юности Сороса Википедия:

Soros was born in Budapest in the Kingdom of Hungary to a well-to-do non-observant Jewish family, who, like many upper-middle class Hungarian Jews at the time, were uncomfortable with their roots. Soros has wryly described his home as a Jewish antisemitic home.[28] His mother Erzsébet (also known as Elizabeth) came from a family that owned a thriving silk shop. His father Tivadar (also known as Teodoro) was a lawyer[29] and had been a prisoner of war during and after World War I until he escaped from Russia and rejoined his family in Budapest.[30][31] The two married in 1924. Tivadar was an Esperantist writer.[32] In 1936, Soros's family changed their name from the German-Jewish Schwartz to Soros, as protective camouflage in increasingly antisemitic Hungary.[33][34] Tivadar liked the new name because it is a palindrome and because of its meaning. In Hungarian, soros means "next in line," or "designated successor"; in Esperanto it means "will soar."[35][36][37]

Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.[38] The Nazis barred Jewish children from attending school, and Soros and the other schoolchildren were made to report to the Judenrat ("Jewish Council"), which had been established during the occupation. Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis: "The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper ... I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported."[39][40]

Soros did not return to that job; his family survived the war by purchasing documents to say that they were Christians. Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion, rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with him while he inventoried a rich Jewish family's estate, though Soros did not take part. Tivadar saved not only his immediate family but also many other Hungarian Jews, and George would later write that 1944 had been "the happiest [year] of his life," for it had given him the opportunity to witness his father's heroism.[41][42] In 1945, Soros survived the Siege of Budapest, in which Soviet and German forces fought house-to-house through the city.

In 1947, Soros immigrated to England and became a student at the London School of Economics.[43] While a student of the philosopher Karl Popper, Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter, and once received £40 from a Quaker charity.[44] Soros would sometimes stand at Speakers' Corner lecturing about the virtues of internationalism in Esperanto, which he had learned from his father.[45]

Soros earned a Bachelor of Science in philosophy in 1951, and a Master of Science in philosophy in 1954, both from the London School of Economics.[46]

Fact checkers пишут по сути то же самое, только более подробно.

Update о передаче Доббса: Brian Stelter:

Update: Fox Business says "we condemn the rhetoric by the guest on Lou Dobbs Tonight. This episode was a repeat which has now been pulled from all future airings."

Comments

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm glad you can't shut up while tasting your own medicine. Scream, baby, scream :)

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Do it again.

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

Still can't shut up? What happened to all your sobbing about my intellectual inabilities? Isn't it funny that something as intellectually weak as I am (if we're to consider that you were not as shamelessly lying when you wrote about my supposed "weaknesses" as you were when you threw your accusations in the beginning of the conversation) can make you, with your "mighty intellect", unable to shut up?

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Isn't it funny

It is funny, given that you declared the conversation over many comments ago. But to be fair, I said I was going to stop replying a while ago too.

But it is funny, so do it again.

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

I declared that the discussion is over. It was. Now I just make you scream again and again. Because your screaming proves that you are either a liar (if you lied about my "stupidity") or a little piece of shit who honestly believes that he deals with a stupid person but still has no decency to shut up.

And now you'll scream again...

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

[...] a little piece of shit

[...] And now you'll scream again...

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

Yes, you still can't shut up. Scream, baby, scream.

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Scream, baby, scream.

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

Yes I know it hurts. That's why you can't shut up, but can't produce anything but screams either. So scream, baby, scream.

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

So scream, baby, scream.

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

It took you almost 3.5 mins to reply... What've happened? Are you calming down?

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Are you calming down?

[cangoose-si.livejournal.com]

It seems that you're unable to control yourself for more than 1/2 hour, even after slavishly following the direction I pointed you toward (i.e. after you tried to shut up after being ridiculed for screaming too often). So scream, baby, scream, if you can't control yourself.