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Special counsel appointed in Russia probe

Эта новость, наверное, тоже заслуживает "hello", но I am running out of hellos.

По-моему, еще вчера республиканцы говорили, что в специальном прокуроре нет необходимости. Похоже, это сообщение о memo Коми оказало такое влияние.

Date: 2017-05-18 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rednyrg721.livejournal.com
Как же так, неужели после fake news в жёлтых газетенках такое? /s

Date: 2017-05-18 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ign.livejournal.com
fake news из анонимных источников!

Date: 2017-05-18 12:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Можно поспорить, как скоро Мюллер станет врагом (демократического) народа, после неудачных попыток найти криминал.
Моя оценка - около месяца хватит

Date: 2017-05-18 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geneus.livejournal.com
Вот прям неудача за неудачей преследуют демократический народ в обнаружении криминальных связей трампизьян с РФией.

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Date: 2017-05-18 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Если хотите поспорить, для начала залогиньтесь.

Date: 2017-05-18 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
And I tell you what, I didn't think I would say this, but I'm going to and I hate to say it. But if I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. Because there has never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been anything like it. And we’re gonna have a special prosecutor. When I speak, I go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. In my opinion, the people that have been long time workers at the FBI are furious.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/2016-presidential-debate-transcript-229519

Date: 2017-05-18 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobot.livejournal.com
А вот этот образчик республиканского юмора видели уже?

Сомневаюсь, что это будет иметь какие-то последствия, но читается забавно.

Date: 2017-05-18 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Нет, заголовок видел, но не смотрел еще. Спасибо.

Date: 2017-05-18 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arbat.livejournal.com
А уже кто-то может ответить, какое именно преступление расследуется?

Я слыхал... разумеется, я не специалист, и, наверняка, ошибаюсь, но я слыхал, что в приличных странах не открывают расследования "найдите мне что-то преступного". Мне рассказывали, что принято сначала определить, какое именно преступление расследуется, или, хотя бы, подозревается.

Вот тут есть некоторый человек, который говорит что-то такое мудреное про probable cause. Наверное, опять, какой-то проклятый республиканец:



Date: 2017-05-18 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
А Вы сегодня этого самого Дершовица слушали?

Я вот сейчас послушал его на CNN, и как-то он ничего против special prosecutor'а не говорил.

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Date: 2017-05-18 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Я, кстати, спросить хотел: как, на Ваш взгляд, сработала эта одноходовочка Трампа с tapes, удачно или нет?

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Date: 2017-05-18 02:44 am (UTC)
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да вы не беспокойтесь – если дело как-то не так повернется, то Трамп попросит Мюллера to let it go, а потом и уволит. Не в первый раз уже одноходовочки блестящие разыгрывать.

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Date: 2017-05-18 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geneus.livejournal.com
Есть необходимость не только в специальном прокуроре, но и в специальном суде и специальной тюрьме.
Не сажать же бывшего президента в обычную.
И не думаю, что Пенс помилует Трампа, как сделал Форд с Никсоном - Пенсу будет хотеться быть избранным.
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Date: 2017-05-18 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zlobnyi-karlik.livejournal.com
да повесить его, да и все

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Date: 2017-05-18 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ign.livejournal.com
Мне кажется, что если дело дойдет до отставки Трампа (я по-прежнему не верю, что удастся собрать 67 голосов в Сенате за импичмент, но допускаю, что его могут в конце концов вынудить уйти добровольно, тем более если Иванка попросит), трамписты нам расскажут, что это была с самого начала часть Хитрого Плана™: вначале избрать Трампа, а потом предоставить ему благовидный предлог для отставки, чтобы Президентом стал Пенс.

Date: 2017-05-18 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Oh, for sure. Более того, сам Трамп представит это дело, как победу.

Другой вопрос, найдет ли специальный прокурор основания для предъявления обвинения.

Date: 2017-05-18 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resooth.livejournal.com
"Если к другому уходит невеста, ещё неизвестно - кому повезло."©

Former FBI Director James Comey may face arrest for criminal violation of Title 18 United States Code, Sub-Section 4 and for violation of 28 USC 1361. So says legal expert Gregg Jarrett, who points out the following:
1. Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

2. On May 3, 2017 Former FBI Director James Comey testified under oath before a US Senate Committee that the Trump administration had not pressured his agency to halt any investigation for political purposes.
Comey’s May 3 Testimony to Hawaii Democratic Senator Mazie Hirono

If Trump told Comey to "stop investigating" as Comey memo alleges then why did Comey state this on May 3 under oath? https://t.co/5A1Zq5rpgs (https://t.co/5A1Zq5rpgs) pic.twitter.com/rp9V4qb1hq (https://t.co/rp9V4qb1hq)

— Nick Short (@PoliticalShort) May 17, 2017 (https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/864929894035202048)



If Comey was lying during sworn congressional testimony then he committed Perjury, a federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison.

Date: 2017-05-18 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svensk-vanja.livejournal.com
пойдет на сделку со следствием, простят.
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Date: 2017-05-18 05:15 am (UTC)
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Date: 2017-05-18 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsokolov.livejournal.com

Let's ask @brhodes @AmbassadorRice @DenisMcDonough or @mwlippert how many times they talked to Russians during 2008 campaign?

— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) May 18, 2017



As for me, not once during 2008 campaign or transition. https://t.co/3Janclyz2Z

— Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) May 18, 2017



Zero times. Why meet with Russians during a campaign? https://t.co/teqIBGmIQg

— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) May 18, 2017

Date: 2017-05-19 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Why meet anyone during the campaign? Why meet French, Chinese or Brazilians?

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