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Трамп:
The question I was asked most today by fellow World Leaders, who think the USA is doing so well and is stronger than ever before, happens to be, “Mr. President, why does the American media hate your Country so much? Why are they rooting for it to fail?”

Date: 2019-08-26 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com

Oн опять с Путиным встречался!

Date: 2019-08-26 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
“Fellow World Leaders” don’t appreciate the special relationship.

President Trump: "We have a number of people that would like to see Russia back. I think it would be advantageous to many things in the world. I think it would be a positive." #G7 pic.twitter.com/rv3u63kQF4

— The Hill (@thehill) August 26, 2019


Trump told reporters on Sunday that there had not been a consensus about what he should do regarding Putin next year, and he said that some unnamed world leaders wanted Putin to attend.
He did not offer names, but a European official said later that Japan was neutral on the proposal and that Italy also offered little objection.
A live microphone captured a private conversation Sunday between Johnson and Macron, and Johnson appeared to remark about a tense moment on Saturday evening, the night of the Putin debate.
“You did very well there last night. My God, that was a difficult one,” Johnson told Macron on Sunday ahead of one meeting, pumping his fist.
“Bien joué,” the British leader said, using the French phrase for “well played.”
The summit is set to conclude on Monday afternoon. Trump will host next year’s G-7 in the United States, and he is leaving whether he will invite Putin as a cliffhanger.
“It’s certainly possible,” he said. “We’ll see.”

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-for-first-time-signals-regret-china-trade-war-has-escalated/2019/08/25/c942ea78-c67a-11e9-b5e4-54aa56d5b7ce_story.html

Date: 2019-08-27 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svensk-vanja.livejournal.com
Путина вроде не было, но был министр иностранных дел Ирана. Может он спрашивал

Date: 2019-08-26 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
Некоторые обратили внимание на неровное использование Заглавных Букв.

I am Mr. Donald Trump, President of these United States, writing to inform upon you the opportunity for my neighboring Country of Mexico to pay for a Wall. Due to unforeseen Problems with my Congress, you must first pay for it, and then I will deposit funds to your account.

— Ed Overbeek (@EdOverbeek) August 25, 2019


Другими словами:

Dude's gotta go.https://t.co/iZp6EExhF9

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) August 25, 2019
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Date: 2019-08-26 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Я вам уже говорил, что не нужно постить не относящиеся к записи комментарии.

Date: 2019-08-26 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zlobnyi-karlik.livejournal.com
врет, абсолютно не заботясь о правдоподобии

Date: 2019-08-26 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
И Трамп совершенно не заботится о правдоподобии, и трамписты are "following their master into dementia", и, соответственно, тоже совершенно не заботятся.

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Date: 2019-08-26 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urbi-t-orbi.livejournal.com
Сочствую вашим страданиям. Ужасная, чудивищная страна! Мерзкий, гнусный народ!
Надеюсь, вы уже планируете эвакуацию от этих нелюдей?

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Date: 2019-08-26 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ign.livejournal.com
> у нас СМИ в изрядной мере контролируется правящей партией

Именно так – Нетаньяху постоянно постит у себя в ФБ видео, начинающиеся словами «СМИ вам этого не расскажут ...», что совершенно абсурдно, потому что есть множество «правых» журналистов, которые с большой охотой об «этом» (т.е. достижениях Нетаньяху, реальных и вымышленных) рассказывают.

Трамп, хотя иногда прямо называет «вражеские» СМИ по имени, в иных случаях не делает такого различия, как вот в этот раз, просто «American media». Понимать ли так, что Fox News это не American media или они тоже ненавидят Америку?

Очевидно, идея здесь в том, чтобы подорвать доверие к СМИ в принципе; даже самый вроде бы лояльный, но формально независимый, журналист, может однажды вспомнить о том, что он журналист, и поэтому должен быть заранее дискредитирован.
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Date: 2019-08-26 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
Так что, возможно, работа пиарщиков.

Оригинальных идей у Трампа нет. Фразу про "врагов народа" придумал и подсказал Пэт Кадделл - не то, чтобы пиарщик, но политтехнолог.

Trump greeted Caddell warmly in North Charleston, and after giving a speech he conferred privately with him, in an area reserved for V.I.P.s and for White House officials, including Stephen Bannon, the President’s top strategist, and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law. Caddell is well known to this inner circle. He first met Trump in the eighties. (“People said he was just a clown,” Caddell said. “But I’ve learned that you should always pay attention to successful ‘clowns.’ ”) Caddell shared the research he did for Mercer with Trump and others in the campaign, including Bannon, with whom he has partnered on numerous projects.
The White House declined to divulge what Trump and Caddell discussed in North Charleston, as did Caddell. But that afternoon Trump issued perhaps the most incendiary statement of his Presidency: a tweet calling the news media “the enemy of the American people.” The proclamation alarmed liberals and conservatives alike. William McRaven, the retired Navy admiral who commanded the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, called Trump’s statement a “threat to democracy.” The President is known for tweeting impulsively, but in this case his words weren’t spontaneous: they clearly echoed the thinking of Caddell, Bannon, and Mercer. In 2012, Caddell gave a speech at a conference sponsored by Accuracy in Media, a conservative watchdog group, in which he called the media “the enemy of the American people.” That declaration was promoted by Breitbart News, a platform for the pro-Trump alt-right, of which Bannon was the executive chairman, before joining the Trump Administration. One of the main stakeholders in Breitbart News is Mercer.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency

ну как у вас с ФОКС

Fox News - более сложное явление.

Можно вспомнить, что когда-то телевизионные новостные программы были скучными и коммерчески убыточными. Первые американские телеканалы теряли деньги на новостях (меньше зрителей - меньше рекламы) и содержали службы новостей по договору с правительством. Роджер Эйлс, создавший Fox News в противовес CNN, сумел сделать новости развлекательными и создать коммерчески успешный проект, систематически окучивая определенный сегмент населения и расчесывая их комплексы.

Ныне большая часть твитов Трампа - пересказ увиденного по Fox News. Не только потому, что он - болван с аддикцией к телевизору. Но и потому, что Fox News знает свою аудиторию лучше, чем любая социологическая служба. Так что неизвестно, кто кого контролирует.

Date: 2019-08-26 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com
заниматься продавливанием своих бизнес интересов через политику

Братья Кохи получили прямой профит от вложений в политику. Адельсон тоже по-тихому пробивал свои бизнес-интересы вроде запрета азартных игр по Интернету.

С другими "политмеценатами" сложнее. Не до конца понятно, ради чего Мерсер вкладывался в Breitbart, Cambridge Analytica и т.д.

"Prager University", источник знаний для придурков, был запущен братъями Уилкс из техасской глубинки.

The Wilks Brothers, along with political commentator Ben Shapiro helped launch and fund The Daily Wire, a conservative news and opinion website in 2015. Additionally, the Wilks Brothers are responsible for much of the funding of PragerU, a conservative YouTube channel and media company started by Dennis Prager to further conservative causes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_and_Farris_Wilks

Считается, что братьями, случайно разбогатевшими на фракинге, движет не столько жадность, сколько религиозная ебанутость. Хотя разделить это сложно.

In addition to his business ventures, Farris, the older brother, is also a pastor at the church founded by his father, The Assembly of Yahweh (7th Day). The church’s doctrine seems to be an amalgam based on the elder Wilks’ anachronistic interpretations of the Bible. It combines biblical literalism with a heavy emphasis on the Old Testament: The church celebrates its Sabbath on Saturday, follows the dietary rules laid down in Leviticus, and celebrates Jewish holidays but not “the religious holidays of the Gentiles,” which include “Christmas, Easter, Valentine’s Day, White Sunday, Good Friday, and Halloween.” (I had to look up White Sunday, which is a traditional Samoan holiday. There’s a significant Samoan community in Texas). Women may not speak during worship. <...>
He said “there are only two basic ideas in the whole world” – and those are free enterprise and socialism. The U.S., he warned, is “inching closer to socialism.” You either have more government or more freedom; the more money taken from you in taxes, the fewer choices you have in life. He acknowledged that he has a “personal stake” in this, saying he pays a “huge amount” in taxes.
He urged congregants not to vote for politicians who promise “free this, free that,” saying that would lead us to become one of the poor nations of the world. “Yahweh never intended for us as a people to be afraid and reliant on government.”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-wilks-brothers-fracking-sugar-daddies-for-the-far-right/

Еще удивительней история средства пропаганды Epoch Times. Как выяснилось, за ним стоит китайская секта Фалуньгун.

By the numbers, there is no bigger advocate of President Donald Trump on Facebook than The Epoch Times.
The small New York-based nonprofit news outlet has spent more than $1.5 million on about 11,000 pro-Trump advertisements in the last six months, according to data from Facebook’s advertising archive — more than any organization outside of the Trump campaign itself, and more than most Democratic presidential candidates have spent on their own campaigns.
Those video ads — in which unidentified spokespeople thumb through a newspaper to praise Trump, peddle conspiracy theories about the “Deep State,” and criticize “fake news” media — strike a familiar tone in the online conservative news ecosystem. The Epoch Times looks like many of the conservative outlets that have gained followings in recent years.
But it isn’t.
Behind the scenes, the media outlet’s ownership and operation is closely tied to Falun Gong, a Chinese spiritual community with the stated goal of taking down China’s government.
It’s that motivation that helped drive the organization toward Trump, according to interviews with former Epoch Times staffers, a move that has been both lucrative and beneficial for its message.
Former practitioners of Falun Gong told NBC News that believers think the world is headed toward a judgment day, where those labeled “communists” will be sent to a kind of hell, and those sympathetic to the spiritual community will be spared. Trump is viewed as a key ally in the anti-communist fight, former Epoch Times employees said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121
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Date: 2019-08-26 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dimrub.livejournal.com
Ну вы же понимаете, он был "прав по существу", и сейчас, я уверен, the usual suspects нам объяснят, как именно.

Date: 2019-08-26 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirelingofnato.livejournal.com
Вполне понятно чувство человека, когда его свои же начинают обзывать (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trumps-idiotic-immoral-rhetorical-attack-on-denmark) идиотом.

Date: 2019-08-26 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwathlobal.livejournal.com
Ну, когда видишь вот такие вот статьи https://www.vox.com/2015/7/2/8884885/american-revolution-mistake, то, конечно, тоже начнешь задаваться аналогичным вопросом.

Date: 2019-08-26 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Вы верите процитированному твиту Трампа?

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Date: 2019-08-26 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ign.livejournal.com
Это, конечно, здесь явный оффтопик, но было бы очень интересно услышать ваше мнение, что именно в этой статье 4-х летней давности натолкнуло вас на мысль, что автор ненавидит свою страну.

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Date: 2019-08-26 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsokolov.livejournal.com
Разумеется, когда всякие там либералы проклинают Октябрьскую революцию, они просто ненавидят Россию.

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/r/ThatHappened

Date: 2019-08-26 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yostrov.livejournal.com
Вопрос: "why does the American (США) media hate your Country (США) so much? Why are they rooting for it to fail?" остается открытым.

Date: 2019-08-26 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Вы верите твиту Трампа?

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Date: 2019-08-27 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] rsokolov referenced to your post from No title (https://rsokolov.livejournal.com/743487.html) saying: [...] мировые лидеры наперебой спрашивали его: "Почему американская пресса так ненавидит Америку?" Вот [...]

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Date: 2019-08-27 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] rsokolov referenced to your post from No title (https://rsokolov.livejournal.com/743487.html) saying: [...] ное Трампом - чистая правда, "даже если все "fellow World Leaders" дружно кинутся все отрицать. [...]

Date: 2019-08-27 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dziga123.livejournal.com
Не совсем в тему, но тоже "sounds extremely true and not made-up at all":
“I have not heard of this situation regarding the two calls that the U.S. mentioned in the weekend,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang says.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/27/xinhua-china-insists-it-is-unaware-of-calls-to-trump.html

Date: 2019-08-28 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonid8.livejournal.com
Ну так китайцы ничего про новые идеи Трампа и не слышали. Да им и не к спеху. Хочет Трамп воевать -- пусть воюет, хуже от этого прежде всего США.

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