Трамп о Саудовской Аравии
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yakov_a_jerkov(via Daniel Dale)
И комментарий к этой информации хороший.
И комментарий к этой информации хороший.
Lots of people said that Trump’s anti-media rhetoric would cause some idiot to murder a journalist, but I don’t think anyone predicted that the idiot would be the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
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Date: 2018-10-13 05:49 am (UTC)Непонятно, зачем саудитам понадобилось нарываться ради такой малозначительной цели. Или у них там, как в Кремле, война разных башен?
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Date: 2018-10-13 01:25 pm (UTC)Ну а со Скрипалями зачем надо было нарываться?
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Date: 2018-10-13 05:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-14 02:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-14 03:08 am (UTC)РФ от Лондона зависит достаточно слабо. СА от Штатов зависит весьма и весьма сильно, настолько сильно, что для них эта зависимость - вопрос жизни и смерти.
И посылать бригаду с пилой для ликвидации жителя США... это похоже либо на внутренние разборки, которые выплеснулись наружу, либо на проверку боем. Типа, если они это схавают - то будут хавать и что-то более серьезное.
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Date: 2018-10-14 03:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-14 05:07 am (UTC)Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said his country refuses to be lectured to over human rights, denouncing as “outrageous” a tweet last month by Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland urging the release of two imprisoned activists.
“What are we? A banana republic? Would any country accept this?” al-Jubeir said Wednesday at an event at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. “You owe us an apology. It is very easy to fix -- apologize, say you made a mistake.”
The tough Saudi stance, a day after Freeland said she hoped to meet al-Jubeir during the United Nations General Assembly in a bid to resolve the stand-off, seemed to set back prospects of an immediate solution. In a backlash over Canada’s human rights policy, the Saudis ordered a freeze on new contracts being awarded to Canadian firms and suspended flights by their state airline to Toronto.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/saudi-arabia-demands-canadian-apology-to-resolve-diplomatic-spat
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Date: 2018-10-14 03:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 07:03 am (UTC)большинство психов, которые атакуют людей, это всё-таки леваки.
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Date: 2018-10-13 01:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 01:47 pm (UTC)Вы не задумывались - почему до сих пор (больше года) не было суда и он не осужден?
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Date: 2018-10-13 02:13 pm (UTC)Вы, видимо, задумывались. И что придумали?
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Date: 2018-10-13 02:53 pm (UTC)А вы что думаете?
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Date: 2018-10-13 03:01 pm (UTC)Я думаю, что если бы обвинение считало, что у них мало шансов убедить присяжных в преднамеренном убийстве, то они предъявили бы другие обвинения. А в какие сроки должен состояться суд я не знаю.
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Date: 2018-10-13 03:31 pm (UTC)Да, такое замечательное свойство прокуратуры - без признания вины уже ничего сделать не могут.
> США скоро прекратят свое существование?
Blue Wave, импичмент, рост революционного самосознания, массовые репрессии против "трампистов".
> то они предъявили бы другие обвинения.
Предъявили конечно - 30 штук, hit-and-run, hate crime with intent to kill,
"Federal hate crime of racially motivated violent interference with a federally protected activity"
"federally protected activity" - особенно забавно:
On August 12, 2017, shortly before the scheduled start of the Unite the fught rally, law enforcement declared an "unlawful assembly" and required rally participants, including Defendant JAMES ALEX FIELDS JR., to disperse.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1075091/download
> А в какие сроки должен состояться суд я не знаю.
Ну и ладно. "We'll See What Happens" (c)
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Date: 2018-10-13 06:51 pm (UTC)Let me understand. То есть как один из реальных вариантов вы рассматриваете возможность того, что прокуратура выдвинула обвинения, которые заведомо не будет в состоянии отстоять в суде, в надежде на Blue Wave и импичмент, после которых судить этого паренька не будет нужды, так как трампистов будут бросать в застенки без суда и следствия?
Ни хрена себе!
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Date: 2018-10-13 07:34 pm (UTC)А поскольку "intent" отсутствует (этот "теракт" явно не планировался) - то нужно что-то другое.
Держать в тюрьме бесконечно, набрать жюри в левом университетском городе.
Меня возьмут в QAnon?
> трампистов будут бросать в застенки без суда и следствия?
Да я видел и обещания вешать трампистов.
Венесуализация страны - clear and present danger.
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Date: 2018-10-13 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 10:12 pm (UTC)У вас дремучие представление об американской системе правосудия.
Обвинения выдвигает большое жюри.
A federal grand jury sitting in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Virginia in Charlottesville today charged an Ohio man with federal hate crimes, including a hate crime act that resulted in the death of Heather Heyer, for his actions during the Aug. 12, 2017 “Unite the Right Rally” in Charlottesville.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ohio-man-charged-federal-hate-crimes-related-august-2017-rally-charlottesville
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Date: 2018-10-14 02:37 am (UTC)The federal prosecutor leads all grand jury sessions, although he cannot testify or be present during grand jury deliberations. As a practical matter, a federal grand jury will almost always return an indictment presented to it by a prosecutor. This is the basis for Judge Sol Wachtler's famous saying that a prosecutor can get a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich.”
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Date: 2018-10-14 04:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-14 01:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 04:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 06:43 pm (UTC)Маркеров идентифицирующие группы вообще очень много.
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There are, however, seven words that the English uppers and upper-middles regard as infallible shibboleths.
Utter any one of these ‘seven deadly sins’ in the presence of these higher classes, and their on-board class-radar devices will start bleeping and flashing: you will immediately be demoted to middle-middle class, at best, probably lower – and in some cases automatically classified as working class.
Pardon
This word is the most notorious pet hate of the upper and upper-middle classes. Jilly Cooper recalls overhearing her son telling a friend ‘Mummy says that “pardon” is a much worse word than “fuck”’. He was quite right: to the uppers and upper-middles, using such an unmistakably lower-class term is worse than swearing. Some even refer to lower-middle-class suburbs as ‘Pardonia’. Here is a good class-test you can try: when talking to an English person, deliberately say something too quietly for them to hear you properly. A lower-middle or middle middle person will say ‘Pardon?’; an upper-middle will say ‘Sorry?’ (or perhaps ‘Sorry – what?’ or ‘What – sorry?’); but an upper-class and a working-class person will both just say ‘What?’
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Sweet
Like ‘dinner’, this word is not in itself a class indicator, but it becomes one when misapplied. The upper-middle and upper classes insist that the sweet course at the end of a meal is called the ‘pudding’ – never the ‘sweet’, or ‘afters’, or ‘dessert’, all of which are déclassé, unacceptable words. ‘Sweet’ can be used freely as an adjective, but as a noun it is piece of confectionary – what the Americans call ‘candy’ – and nothing else. The course at the end of the meal is always ‘pudding’, whatever it consists of: a slice of cake is ‘pudding’, so is a lemon sorbet. Asking: ‘Does anyone want a sweet?’ at the end of a meal will get you immediately classified as middle-middle or below. ‘Afters’ will also activate the class-radar and get you demoted.
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Date: 2018-10-13 09:55 pm (UTC)James A. Fields Jr., 21, faces 10 state charges related to the rally, including first-degree murder in the death of Heather Heyer, 32, as well as 30 federal hate crime charges, some of which could result in the death penalty.
Fields’ trial in Charlottesville Circuit Court is set to begin Nov. 26, according to court records.
The state and federal trials will be separate, court officials said, although similar testimony and arguments are expected at both trials, as well appearances by many of the same witnesses.
https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/lawyers-judge-hash-out-details-ahead-of-first-trial-for/article_c53acbf5-b91f-5ffb-a976-8c220648efd0.html
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Date: 2018-10-14 03:18 pm (UTC)2016 - Charlottesville
Clinton - 17,901
Trump - 2,960
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Attorneys for James Alex Fields Junior claim there is no chance a jury of people who live in Charlottesville would be impartial. Denise Lunsford, Fields’ lawyer, argued that the people who live in the city have been emotionally affected by the events of August 12 2017.
Update: Judge Declines to Move Fields' Trial Out of Charlottesville Court
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Date: 2018-10-14 02:21 pm (UTC)Но вы не волнуйтесь -- 26го ноября начнется. Казалось бы, эта информация всем доступна, но нет же -- гораздо удобней придумывать коспиративные теории.
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Date: 2018-10-14 03:11 pm (UTC)2016 - Charlottesville
Clinton - 17,901
Trump - 2,960
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Attorneys for James Alex Fields Junior claim there is no chance a jury of people who live in Charlottesville would be impartial. Denise Lunsford, Fields’ lawyer, argued that the people who live in the city have been emotionally affected by the events of August 12 2017.
Update: Judge Declines to Move Fields' Trial Out of Charlottesville Court
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Date: 2018-10-13 09:50 pm (UTC)Я говорю про большинство, а вы мне -- what about тот который пытался убежать от агрессивных леваков? Ничего не знаю про него, но очевидно, что он не является большинством.
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Date: 2018-10-13 10:35 pm (UTC)Зачем вы повторяете talking points alt-right?
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Date: 2018-10-14 07:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-13 10:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-10-14 12:42 am (UTC)Over the past 10 years (2008-17), domestic extremists have been responsible for at least 387 murders; of these, 274 (71%) were committed by right-wing extremists of one type or another.
https://www.adl.org/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2017#the-perpetrators
Но на нацистских прихвостней не действует https://yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com/1360017.html?thread=44998289#t44998289
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Date: 2018-10-14 05:22 pm (UTC)