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yakov_a_jerkov ([personal profile] yakov_a_jerkov) wrote2019-03-25 10:19 pm

Chutzpah

The Trump campaign is sending this memo to TV producers:


The list of guests who made outlandish, false claims includes, but is not litmited to: [...]

Moving forward, we ask that you employ basic journalistic standards when booking such guests to appear anywhere in your universe of productions. You should begin by asking the basic question: "Does this guest warrant further appearances in our programming, given the outrageous and unsupported claims made in the past?"
Кампания Трампа призывает телепродюсеров не приглашать гостей, которые делают "outlandish", "outrageous" и, о ужас, "unsupported" (!) claims.

Кампания Трампа! Think about it. Нет, серьезно, think about it.

P.S. Приведенные в мемо цитаты, конечно, just fine, но я не об этом.

[identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com 2019-03-26 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Он достаточно сказал про 2016...

[identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com 2019-03-26 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
1. По словам Бреннана, информация в ЦРУ была, и он передал ее в ФБР.

There were things that happened, meetings that took place between individuals on the Russian side and on the U.S. side that raised my concerns about collaboration related to the election. I didn’t know what was motivating some people, but I certainly was concerned. And anything that we had that involved U.S. persons, anything that the CIA collected or had information about involving U.S. persons, we immediately shared it with the FBI, because it’s their responsibility to pull those investigative threads.
So I was aware, contemporaneously, of some things that were going on, which again caused me to furrow my brow and say, “What's this all about?” But I didn’t follow it up. I was confident that the FBI would be able to do its job.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/john-brennan/

2. Часть этой информации поступила от партнеров и включала в себя записи разговоров.

Robert Hannigan, then the head of the U.K.’s intelligence service the G.C.H.Q., had recently flown to Washington and briefed the C.I.A.’s director, John Brennan, on a stream of illicit communications between Trump’s team and Moscow that had been intercepted. (The content of these intercepts has not become public.)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

3. Стандарты доказательства в ЦРУ иные, чем в ФБР, потому что им не нужно предъявлять их в суде. Прослушки в суде тоже не всегда предъявишь, не засветив источники.

The obstruction of justice issue, however, is too important to be dismissed by a Trump-appointed AG with a predetermined view on Presidential accountability to the rule of law. We need to see the Report.

— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) March 26, 2019

[identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com 2019-03-30 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
В ретроспективе обьяснение, которое дал встрече в Трамп Тауэр Дэн Хофман, б. руководитель отдела ЦРУ в Москве, makes sense: это была "deliberate influence" op, именно с целью засветить команду Трампа, а не попытка collusion. Каким образом Бреннан и Хофман могли настолько расходиться в оценках, уму непостижимо. Сейчас говорят, что Бренан сделал карьеру благодаря Тенету и звезд с неба не хватает.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542106975/cover-lifted-a-cia-spy-offers-his-take-on-trump-and-russia

[identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com 2019-03-30 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
deliberate discoverable

[identity profile] tijd.livejournal.com 2019-03-31 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Никогда не придавал встрече в Трамп Тауэр большого значения. Со стороны Весельницкой это как раз пример наивности и некомпетентности, о которых говорят российские "либералы" вроде Ковалева.

Встреча Манафорта и Килимника больше похожа на "collusion": "You might think it’s OK that that campaign chairman offered polling data to someone linked to Russian intelligence." Непонятно, почему эту нить до конца не раскрутили - не то "и так хорошо получилось", не то расколу Манафорта помешала морковка помилования.