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Статья в "New Yorker" -- "Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency".

Но я не про "the end stage of the Trump presidency" -- это пока вилами по воде писано. Я о части про Ирак. Процитирую.
I arrived in Baghdad on April 12th of that year, a few days after Saddam’s statue at Firdos Square had been destroyed. There were a couple of weeks of uncertainty as reporters and Iraqis tried to gauge who was in charge of the country and what the general plan was. There was no electricity, no police, no phones, no courts, no schools. More than half of Iraqis worked for the government, and there was no government, no Army, and so no salaries for most of the country. At first, it seemed possible that the Americans simply needed a bit of time to communicate the new rules. By the end of April, though, it was clear: there was no plan, no new order. Iraq was anarchic.

We journalists were able to use generators and satellite dishes to access outside information, and what we saw was absurd. Americans seemed convinced things were going well in Iraq. The war—and the President who launched it—were seen favorably by seventy per cent of Americans. Then came these pictures of a President touting “Mission Accomplished”—the choice of words that President Trump used in a tweet on Saturday, the morning after he ordered an air strike on Syria. On the ground, we were not prophets or political geniuses. We were sentient adults who were able to see the clear, obvious truth in front of us. The path of Iraq would be decided by those who thrived in chaos.
Если это fair assessment -- и, по-видимому, it is -- то как так получилось, что "there was no plan"?

Date: 2018-04-17 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abba65.livejournal.com
Согласен с предыдущими ораторами.
Да, тогдашний Буш был не умнее нынешнего Трампа (впрочем, для президентов США это скорее норма).
Да, разные люди в Администрации имели разные планы, которые никак не коррелировали между собой.
Да, основной план менялся по ходу дела, так что никто не знал, "чего мы хотим добиться в данный момент?"

Проще говоря, США думали, как выиграть войну, но совершенно не думали, как выиграть мир.
Вопрос "что мы будем делать после свержения Саддама?" просто не стоял.
Итог "немного предсказуем".

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